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Figured this could use its own thread so people can throw all their map hate in one place. Lotta maps are either just entirely unbalanced for gamplay or just have some exploits that can completely ruin gameplay, list the ones you think fit that role here. Extra explanation to why it's bad/broken would probably be better. For my suggestions I would say vsh_beach_xsp1b1 (already pointed out by Karla), vsh_megaman6_b5d, vsh_evil_pumpkin_farm_b6new2, vsh_chemical_v1, arena_suijin_rc2, vsh_volcanic_b2, vsh_lumberyard_event, vsh_apg_v2, vsh_west_fix, vsh_dunes_b2, and arena_offblast_final. No point in explaning Beach again, the thread is here. Megaman is just entirely too big of a map, and generally half or so of each level won't be used at all by players, and either a player or hale will get lost if not in the main fighting area of the map. If I remember correctly, music and some sounds will not work on the map either. If we could possibly get the older version of the map that we used to have, it would be much better. The reason we didn't have it was I think because of an issue with hales falling off the map that has been fixed since. Evil Pumpkin Farm is high in the list of my most hated maps along with Beach. To start, the map is extremely un-optimized. If you look into the middle of the map, you may have your fps be cut in half, though this of course depends on each individual's PC, but I've heard of it from a lot of different people, including myself. The other main issue is the entire basement of the map. It's a maze to begin with, and it makes the map unnecessarily larger then it has to be. You can easily camp down there and not see the hale for an entire game, and just end up stalemating the rounds. Have had it happen plenty of times. Chemical has a big issue with props being entirely invisible depending on your settings. It makes it just annoying to get stuck on invisible props. Examples: 1, 2. Not to mention I found a sentry spot where the sentry can actually shoot through a platform you can set up on, making it next to impossible to get killed while there unless you get raged. Suijin is a pretty map, it looks nice. That's the only reason it ever get's voted for. It's full of problems, the first one being the terrible optimization it has. The second issue with it is the few broken sentry spots it has. The more obvious ones being on the main islands at the edge of the map, then the smaller, farther islands, and last but not least, the end of the cliff. Volcanic isn't entirely broken when it comes to actual gameplay, but the main issue it has is the amount of crashes that happen. Snowdrop will almost guarantee to crash 75% of the server every time, and even bosses like Applejack can cause crashes, albeit rare. Lumberyard Event isn't at all broken, or unbalanced, we just don't need 2 Lumberyards. Either remove the normal one, or this one, because I don't like playing on the same map twice in a row. Apg is probably the only map I put on here purely because of it just being poor for gameplay. The second the game starts, you can instantly super jump towards red spawn as the hale, and unless you are a scout, soldier, or possibly demo, you can't do much to get out before the hale is already slaughtering you and your team. Then there's the fact it's just another sniper-friendly map that isn't fun to play hale on. Also this sentry spot is pretty cheap too. Goes to show that converting a trade map into a vsh map isn't really a great idea. I actually enjoy West Fix, it's a good map, I don't really want it actually removed, I would prefer a "fix" (ironic, isn't it?). Though, there will always be the infamous exploit of the map. Dunes, again, is a map that's not too bad, but has an extremely broken spot for heavies and engineers. That's about it. Offblast has a fairly unknown exploit to leave the map. Not going to add a screenshot here, as most people don't know it exists. Also a very small map that's just not designed well for vsh at all. Not a hugely broken map, just not a very good one. When it come's to maps that just have a few broken spots, what ever happened to this? This would probably fix a lot of spots that are problematic, and wouldn't have to remove the decent maps that just have a few issues with them.
So, let's talk about maps. I know Sarysa also made a post about this, but it's mostly about adding maps, this topic is about getting RID of maps. There are maps we like, and there are maps we absolutely hate and I am talking about those overplayed, sniper filled and god awful movement maps. What maps I feel should be removed and my reasons why. -Crevice Overplayed, Over Rated and everytime this map is played some people even LEAVE the server cause how bad it is and the amount of snipers we see there are at least 8-10 snipers every round. The talk yesterday on the server made it clear this map should be removed -Dunes There is one game breaking spot that literally makes it so teleport hales CANNOT reach the spot and is a massive struggle for normal hales to even get to it, if you are a engie and have a airblasting pyro, this certain spot here can downright win a round no matter what. -Orange Please, this map is another map that should be removed because how bad it is. The map is so orange it hurts the eyes, you keep on falling threw the floor and have to walk back up the stairs and it's downright bad. -Chemical This map has so many invisible walls it's not even funny, the layout is awful and the designer made most of the map unplayable on. -Beach Awful, just awful. Sniper heaven, horrible slopes, water is missing textures, terrible colour, so laggy and everyone hates it. You can hit the hale from spawn, break the map in some places. Please this one needs to be removed. -Megaman I honestly like this map... before it was updated. The update made the map so big and so laggy it's really hard to play, if we can go to a earlier version map should be fine. -Apg This map is decent I have nothing wrong with it, it's just how buggy this map is. There are so many bugs everywhere it's not even funny. Alright, well there goes my rant, if any of you have anything about this list or want to add to it comment below would be lovely.