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Sonic the Hedgehog

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Confession time! I'm a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan. Aside from Robogaman, I'm the biggest Sonic fan here--and the court is still out on which of us is the bigger fan.

I decided that I should start a topic on Sonic!

Sonic is a longtime video mascot, and at one point rivaled Mario in popularity. He has since fallen from his glory, but he's not out of the ring yet. What are you thoughts and opinions on Sonic? His video game career, his cartoon and comics, or anything else relevant.

DISCUSS!

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I was an SNES kid and none of my friends had a Genesis so I never really played Sonic as a kid, so I've got no nostalgia goggles about it.

I will say that without a doubt, throughout its history, Sonic games have had absolutely stellar music. And I value music in a game above most other merits it may have. I've listened to the soundtracks of every single Sonic game, I think, though that may be a silly claim because there are FIVE MILLION SONIC GAMES.

I will also say that for a game about a super-fast hedgehog, and games that can PROVIDE incredible feelings of speed, the games on the Genesis were oddly SLOW. I say that because if you actually DID go top speed in a level you would quickly die as you rammed into enemies that you could barely react to because you were going so dang fast. Maybe once you play the games a bunch you can jet through levels with ease but when I first picked the game up a few years back I found myself needing to be very careful, which seems completely wrong to me.

Besides the Genesis games the only other Sonic game I've played was the RPG from Bioware on the DS. Bioware's never done me wrong. Except this one time. Dear god. This game had to have been made by a team of Bioware interns that nobody liked or thought had a real future in game design.

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I was an SNES kid and none of my friends had a Genesis so I never really played Sonic as a kid, so I've got no nostalgia goggles about it.

In my case, I'm honestly too young to have proper nostalgia goggles. Sonic Adventure 2 was pretty much my first and significant experience with Sonic, and that is perhaps more in the middle of his career rather than early on. But, I have gone back and played pretty much the entire serious thoroughly.

I will say that without a doubt, throughout its history, Sonic games have had absolutely stellar music. And I value music in a game above most other merits it may have. I've listened to the soundtracks of every single Sonic game, I think, though that may be a silly claim because there are FIVE MILLION SONIC GAMES.

Yes! Yes! Yes! No matter what, Sonic has just about always had AMAZING music--and they're honestly more consistent about that than even Nintendo is, IMO. And as far as the of quanity games goes, there really is only about 20-ish flagship titles. All which have soundtracks worth listening too.

I will also say that for a game about a super-fast hedgehog, and games that can PROVIDE incredible feelings of speed, the games on the Genesis were oddly SLOW. I say that because if you actually DID go top speed in a level you would quickly die as you rammed into enemies that you could barely react to because you were going so dang fast. Maybe once you play the games a bunch you can jet through levels with ease but when I first picked the game up a few years back I found myself needing to be very careful, which seems completely wrong to me.

This is also quite true--and something that I've talked about before to people. The classic Gnes games (while faster than most platformers) often don't let you go as fast as you'd like. Now route-memorization has always been part of playing Sonic games well, whether or not that was the intent--but it's shame that you just couldn't cut lose when playing. In spite of all that, Sonic 1-3K are all fantastic platformers and should not be disregarded because they're not as fast as you'd think.

Now when you get to more recent games, the speed issue does get a lot better. There still is, and may always be, issues with people not being able to respond quickly enough. I mean, Sonic has super-reflexes, in addition to super-speed. Except when a player is in complete control of Sonic, the reflexes are up to the player. And no one can react nearly as fast as Sonic should be able to. Overall, I'd say that the recent Sonic Generations does sorta improve on some of those issues with Classic Sonic. More on that some other time though.

Besides the Genesis games the only other Sonic game I've played was the RPG from Bioware on the DS. Bioware's never done me wrong. Except this one time. Dear god. This game had to have been made by a team of Bioware interns that nobody liked or thought had a real future in game design.

I had so much hope for that game. . .I'm both a huge Sonic fan, and Bioware fan. Win/win, right? Wrong.

:(

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I was a Game Boy, N64 and somewhat PC kid growing up, and my first taste of Sonic was Sonic 3D Blast. On the PC. It's not like the controls on a controller are bad enough, try using the keyboard! And no WASD, you have to use the directional keys instead (which is a real pain if you're right-handed.)

I maintained an interest in Sonic, though (barely) and got my first "real" experience in 2003. After that I realized what I was missing and kept playing Sonic whenever I could. Though, truth be told... I've always liked Mario more. Might be because Super Mario Land was my second-ever game.

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Confession time! I'm a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan. Aside from Robogaman, I'm the biggest Sonic fan here--and the court is still out on which of us is the bigger fan.

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I don't see you with a genesis or a 32X with all the old sega games that came out! Hue hue hue, whats your score in sonic pinball?

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Confession time! I'm a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan. Aside from Robogaman, I'm the biggest Sonic fan here--and the court is still out on which of us is the bigger fan.

Wait a minute. Waaait a minute. All these posters, figurines, and comic books I've got lying around say there aren't just two super fans around here.

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Ah yes, Sonic the Hedgehog. If there was ever a character that stood out to me, it was this bugger right here:

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Not much to say other than Sonic was my childhood icon. The games, the cartoons, the comics, everything Sonic was a huge part of my life.

Also, Sonic Generations. If you have not played this yet, you really need to. You are missing out on one of the best games in the series since Adventure 2.

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I never really cared for Sonic games. I prefer not to rush through a game just to finish it, I prefer to have to think about a way around certain situations (which is why I prefer Zelda games). Mario had a bit of the same problem, but less so.

Also; Super Sonic?

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Fuckin' really?

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Confession time! I'm a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan. Aside from Robogaman, I'm the biggest Sonic fan here--and the court is still out on which of us is the bigger fan.

I don't see you with a genesis or a 32X with all the old sega games that came out! Hue hue hue, whats your score in sonic pinball?

Wait a minute. Waaait a minute. All these posters, figurines, and comic books I've got lying around say there aren't just two super fans around here.

Hey! More Sonic fans! I had no clue you guys were into the blue blur. Yay!

Also; Super Sonic?

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Fuckin' really? awesome!

FTFY

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Sonic Adventure 2 shaped me when I was younger. Sonic's theme from Adventure 2 is and always will be my favorite song. I still listen to it regularly to remind myself not to give up on whatever various troubles I face.

Favorite titles, Adventure 2, Generations, Secret Rings. It's not perfect, but I love Secret Rings. Getting to level 99 and equipping all the best skills, it feels like cheating. Way to many hours in that game.

I was also disappointed by the RPG, but even more so because at the same time I was playing The World Ends With You which is stupid amazing. So in direct comparison, it was just blehhh. Swatbots where a nice nod though.

I can gush for hours really.

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Also; Super Sonic?

Fuckin' really? awesome!

FTFY

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Orly?

Super Saiyen's are awesome. Super Sonic is awesome--more awesome if you ask me but I'm biased.

It occurs to me that you might be thinking that Super Sonic is a ripoff of Super Sayians and Dragon Ball Z. Which would be kinda odd, since I'm pretty sure Super Sonic predates Dragon Ball Z. Maybe that's not what you're saying, and I apologize if that's the case. But if so, clarify what you mean.

EDIT:

A cursory internet research shows that Sonic 2 (in which Super Sonic first appeared [Yes, I know that off the top of my head because I'm a Sonic fan-boi]) was released in 1992.

The Dragon Ball manga started in 1984, but the issue named The Super Saiyan: The Legendary Super Saiyan, (where I assume the Super Sayian was first introduced) is 1991.

So, I do suppose there is some argument for that. But it honestly feels like an odd and bizarre accusation.

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Rad-man, you want cheating?

Sonic 2 on debug mode.

Epic cheating.

I actually chose Genesis over Snes as my first sytem, because sonic was faster, and waay cooler, than some Plumber's crack eating mushrooms. :P

I loved thew white-knuckle fly-by-the-seat-of-your-d-pad gameplay. Especially once they let you charge up his roll attack in Sonic 2.

All the collectibles and bonus levels in Sonic 3 were a great addition, as well as save files. Finally!

Sonic + Knuckles was okay. Didn't really get a lot of time into that game.

Sonic Adventure brought back that white-knuckled speed, and improved upon it.

Haven't kept up with the freanchise lately, but I heard I'm not missing a whole lot.

Good memories, there.

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I can gush for hours really.

Same here.

In fact, this thread is severely distracting me, as I have can easily comment on just about every sentence uttered here. I will come back later and post en masse.

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I have a sort-of love for Sonic, but I haven't liked one of his games in a long time. I think the most standout issue for me right now is that his animation is never smooth; there are many characters like Rayman, Prince (of Persia), Batman, Ezio, who don't quite move at the speed of sound, but feel so fast in the way they move from one obstacle from another. Sonic is fast, but he's not quick or nimble at all. He's like a car, and you wouldn't use a car to jump between platforms (even in the 2D moving games, his acceleration/deceleration speed is abysmal).

I've got vague ideas of how I might make a new, good Sonic game that depart greatly from what people are used to, but I don't see any method of implementing that. The least I'll say is to make Robotnik funny and wacky...but terrifying, like The Joker. Have him make offhand chuckling remarks about throwing people in a pit of lava and watching as they melt into a pit of goo (but being an E/T-rated game, obviously never have that actually HAPPEN)

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Rad-man, you want cheating?

Sonic 2 on debug mode.

Epic cheating.

Ohh yeah. Debug confused the hell out of me when I first discovered it. Kind of wish that type of thing was still around.

But like, in Secret Rings. You can just go so fast. Soooo fassst.

I can gush for hours really.

Same here.

In fact, this thread is severely distracting me, as I have can easily comment on just about every sentence uttered here. I will come back later and post en masse.

I'll be right here with ya.

Know what I'd really like from Sega? They like making Sonic Collections. Mega, Gems, Genesis, ect. I would like a Sonic Adventure Collection on 3DS. The snowboard/sandboarding levels in 3D. Space Colony ARK levels, in 3D. The portability of it all. And something that would be absolutely necessary. Streetpass. Chao Garden. It would all work so well. Thing is it would take a lot of work. I played around with SA2 in an emulator and took 3d Screenshots. The game... isn't formatted for it at all. particle effects are rendered so in 3d they appear close, even if they're behind and object. It hurts your eyes.

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Sonic games predating 3-D don't have much interest for me, most pre n64 era games aren't exactly my forte, and sonic games are me being abysmal at them.

the sonic adventure games... i don't quite see why people like em so much, the controls are pretty bad, some of the playable characters were either really boring or just too easy, and the games are just short, i mean i know you can replay a level to beat your record or whatever, but the games just didn't have the feel of "i want to replay this right away." Chao gardens on the other hand.. hooooooooweee i can't remember how much time i spent raising those chao.

More recent sonic games have been pretty bad, up until unleashed i could've sworn sonic would be gone in no time, but unleashed's day time sections were actually pretty fun. then colors came out and BAM great game sonic team is back.

i've yet to fully play generations, but i damn want too it's sooo fuuuuun

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I feel like I should say something...

Alright, I will start with the fact that my name did NOT come from him, nor did the colors...

However, it was the first game I ever played, I had Sonic 2 for the SEGA and I loved that game to death

Favorite Zone: Casino Night

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I've always had a fascination with Casino themes. I don't much care for Casinos, but I really dig their aesthetic.

Casino Park/Bingo Highway from Heroes. So cool~

:read:

Also to those who haven't gotten to Generations yet. It's just as good as you think, if not better.

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Favorite Zone: Casino Night

My bro could literally spend hours playing the slot machines in that level.

That and the music.... O_O hours were wasted indeed

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