Rainbronydash

A Wrong Ban!

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Basically {Violet} Motherly DemoScootabat  got banned by videogames. I myself saw videogames ban my friend without his physical proof and he never checked the spray himself. He just went off of holy bird popes advice. This is his first ban and it was for two weeks! My friend was simply talking to others about the spray and they say he was mouthing off. Again videogames heard this from bird pope. There was no verification on this ban. EDIT: I didn't know where to post this sorry ;_; im just worried about my friend. EDIT : I just seen the ban submissions/protests forum if you can move this. 

Edited by Rainbronydash

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Are we seriously going to start this again? If so, then let me finish it kindly for you also. I gave him more then enough warnings to change it. I am very generous with my warnings. I gave him 3 maps to change it, yet he didn't. What I say in-game I try to make as nice as possible, so when I asked him to change it, he instead choose to complain about it to everyone including me. And for the grand finale of topping it off, he states to me over Voicechat to "Grow a dick and get over it" on the matter of his spray. I even initiated a vote kick to get it through his head to change it and he STILL didn't care. I mean I could have warned him once and submitted a ban for the spray, but you know I was kind enough to ask him to change it many times. So, if he doesn't care about me trying to be nice, then I don't either. End of discussion.

Edited by Holy Bird Pope
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Hey its me Violet im here to say im sorry for being mean to the moderator and not obaying him/her. I just want this two week banned off me please I just want to play on the server again without waiting two weeks. I'm Sorry Holy Bird Pope

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Reason why I should be unbanned: My spray was safe for work, Holy never told me what the problem was with my spray, this is the first time I got banned and two weeks thats outrageous. If you need to look at the spray I had, I can show to you 

 

Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:70641524

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I told you why it was vulgar, and instead you chose to argue over it with players. And about the 2 week reason, trust me if you changed it you would of never been banned. You for some odd reason decided to not care about my more then crazy amount of warnings I gave you and after the failed votekick, you seemingly still were in-different on the subject of "replace your spray". Bad sprays in this community is a 1 week ban. You not caring about me asking you to stop after god knows how many warnings to you is the reason it's 2 weeks not 1 week.

 

On the note of your spray and it's in-appropriate content, here is why it was not allowed:

 

No Vulgar Sprays or Decals

"Artwork involving censored or clothed subjects can still violate this rule if there is artistic emphasis placed on depicting genitalia or nipples." 

Straight from the MOTD on the subject of these things. AKA Panty Bulges are a no no. Please stay away from those sprays.

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You could of just told or typed it, but all you mostly said its bad and i've been telling you why its bad. Ether I wasn't looking at the chat box in game or you never told me. Also I just told people in the Server if it was a bad spray. That's why i didn't got kicked when you did a vote kick because they were fine by the spray. Ether way i changed the spray if it makes you happy I just want this ban off me.

Edited by LightningDash1213

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Well, Holy Bird and Videogames are friends, and Holy Bird being in a moderator position means he's trustworthy, so I guess Videogames just trusted Bird's judgement on the spray and proceeded with the ban.

 

And the votekick failing probably has 2 reasons:

1 - not many people that were online knows the server rules or didn't even see the spray.

2 - the votekick popup doesn't show the reason of the votekick vote (most mods write in chat why the votekick), and some people don't pay much attention to chat or don't speak english to understand the votekick and just vote randomly.

 

Also, this server keeps chatlogs, so there's a way to know if Holy Bird really did warn you multiple times and if you really offended him.

 

If you're really sure this ban is wrong, you should show the spray to other admins and ask if it's okay or not. Here's the list of all admins. And I don't think Videogames simply banned you without at least hearing a description of your spray

http://forum.ponyville.net/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=stats&do=leaders

 

 

Also, just a tip, you only got banned for 2 weeks, being agressive or offending any staff members could make your ban lenght a lot bigger.

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First and foremost the results of a voteban have no effect on the discretion of an Admin's decision. A moderator can be in the right and the vote may still fail. This is WHY I do not like the vote system.

 

A player is also intended to establish their own appeal and not have it led by a friend, please remember this for future instances.

 

 

Telling a mod/admin to "grow a dick" is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot. Not only is it belligerence, it's inappropriate and unnecessary to the situation. Regardless of your spray, this warrants a ban still.

 

A character can be fully covered and still be inappropriate. Bird Pope gave you plenty of warning before calling for my help, and assuming I did nothing without checking the spray myself is near laughable.

 

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/535135824196646428/8FBA1083DA27CF0356170563F26DBB9D6AA2595F/

 

Pokemon are not clothed, but they also aren't intended to be groping themselves. The ban will stay until I receive input from another Admin.

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I'm going to go on record to say...I actually think that image is just barely below the borderline. I like to think I usually have the same sensibilities as Raini and I could totally see her disagreeing with me on this one image, but it just seems like a common pin-up pose where the subject covers her own breasts. I don't think the open mouth implies self-pleasuring/groping, since the eyes betray that notion.

 

But this is just one person's opinion. Something this close to the borderline really needs multiple opinions, heh. (though I think peoples' interpretation of the eyes+mouth will be the overall decider) Plus it sounds like Violet dug his own grave by being disrespectful.

Edited by sarysa
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Sarysa wanted my opinion to see if she was crazy or not. While I do think she is crazy, she isn't on this. I agree on the pin-up notion and that it doesn't appear to be groping itself. However, disrespect towards staff is a big no no. The player should have just changed the spray and gotten the opinion of another admin on the spray instead of arguing.

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Honestly, compared to other images I have seen on ponyville of Groping/Hentai/Porn and other things this is one spray I would consider not as bad as the other ones.

 

Why?

 

Because it doesn't show any Nipples or "Girl Areas" hell it doesn't even look like she is groping herself.

 

Also if it's this persons first ban, then either reduce the sentence by a lot (I would say let them have 3-5 more days of ban) or just get rid of the ban all togethere.

Edited by General Scootz

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I do agree in terms of getting a consensus when it comes to sprays containing this type of content, but I also must agree with the posts above in terms of Violet being disrespectful to the staff, because nothing good will ever come out of it.

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I think I should have of put this out on the screenshot just as a notice about it. The maps lighting was very bright and some parts of the spray are covered by all the white that the lighting gave off. In the spray there was a clear "panty bulge", and that's why I went on about it. Sorry for the spray not being the highest quality for evidence. I just took it quickly to send to a admin, and wasn't looking for the highest sense of quality in it. You can't see the panty bulge, but it was there and evident in the picture under better lighting conditions.

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So when I put the spray in game I didn't notice the panty bulge and when you told me to take off the spray you never told me why and I wouldn't have not notice the little detail on the spray, plus its hardly noticable, in game, so how would have I notice that little detail and also for the other player's? If the other players in the server said it was bad they could of also told me why it was bad, but no they also didn't notice it

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"So when I put the spray in game I didn't notice the panty bulge and when you told me to take off the spray you never told me why"

 

Here's the thing. I told you, and you instead didn't care. I cannot use my mic since something is wrong with it (everytime I use it my game lags for 20-30 seconds) so I instead used chat to communicate. Saying that you don't see clear yellow chat, which is basically clearly visible is not my fault. I warned you multiple times and told you more then once why it was bad. If I warn you, and you don't see it, I will not go through a long and arduous process of trying to communicate with you. To sum it up, I told you 2 times why it was bad, and 5+ warnings to remove it. If you don't see them, then it ain't my problem.

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Hm, Bird is right, unless it was an edited version, which I doubt.

With my googler powers I found the source of that spray, and that's definitely a camel toe

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/088/5/d/shiny_gardevoir_s_trap_by_demonkingd17-d7c5zdw.jpg

 

And with the original image we have solid evidence of visible bulging. Spray is inappropriate by our standards. Denied.

 

 

Leaving appeal open for any further discussion. I do not see reason to shorten the ban at this time.

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Another thing people seem to forget is that when picking out your spray, YOU willingly choose it.  YOU willingly put it in tf2.  YOU willingly press the spray bind/key.  You had a lot of opportunities to see that the pokemon in said image had a clear and visible camel toe.  My decision stands with Videogames, denied.

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